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beat" but one more thing to tell you. i was so excited about the news worthy interview coming up here with my colleague joy reid, and the vice president of the united states, that i mentioned earlier in the show that it was tonight. you should watch "the reidout" tonight, but the interview is tomorrow. if i misspeak, i will correct it, and i will be watching tonight and tomorrow night "the reidout" with joy reid which starts now. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" tonight, five full weeks into putin's horrific war in ukraine that's targeting civilians, killing 148 children so far according to ukraine's defense ministry. we just learned that one person died and four were injured when russian militants shot at a column of volunteers near chernihiv who were trying to help civilians evacuation. this war is not going well for
putin. his soldiers are sabotaging their own equipment according to the uk spy's chief. and a u.s. official told nbc that we have information that indicates that some russian government senior officials likely disagreed with putin's decision to invade ukraine. their disillusionment is probably amplified by the military's underperformance. ry'. >> putin signed a decree today, drafting more than 134,000 concrypts into the russian army. they are being told they're not being sent to ukraine, but putin also denied that conscripts had been sent in earlier in the war, and that turned out to be a lie. in fact, the use of conscripts may be why the invasion went so poorly in the first place. they are younger, less motivated and poorly trained. the ukrainian government announced they're gaining territory, liberating two
villages in chernihiv, and that russian equipment is being moved away from kyiv, and that ukraine is recapturing villages there. yesterday, richard engel visited an abandoned russian camp on the outskirts of kharkiv. >> reporter: this was a russian camp. you can see they had all of their weapons here, dugout positions, and they were bombed. there's still some bodies in this area, and they left a lot of their equipment behind of what appears to have been a devastating attack on their position. there's nothing left. >> while the area might be back in ukrainian control, what civilians have gone through is harrowing. >> reporter: this 88-year-old woman was sitting by herself, disoriented and frightened. "i'm so afraid, my whole body is shaking. at night, i cover in a blank et and i shake." mostly, she wanted comfort. she says she lived through world war ii and doesn't have the
strength to go through it all again. >> and it certainly is far from over. kharkiv is under constant attack, with ukraine saying russia fired 47 strikes last night alone. and that russia is refusing to allow humanitarian corridors there. humanitarian corridors did open up today in mariupol, which has been relentlessly besieged by the russian. president zelenskyy said today thousands of civilians have died there. nbc news is unable to verify that number. just under 1500 people were able to evacuate the region today through three corridors. the russian soldiers seized 14 tons of humanitarian aid, including food and medicine. this is part of russia's focus on the eastern part of the country, where ukrainian officials say russia is considering sending their own officials to preside over occupied territory. russia claimed to take over another territory in donetsk today of the ukrainian government -- where the head of
the ukrainian government says they're using white phosphorous munitions. that is not banned by international law, but if it is used to target civilians, it can represent a violation of the laws of war. the kremlin says they haven't violated any international convention. to the capital kyiv, while russia struggles to advance on the ground, they've still been striking kyiv. and the nato secretary-general said today russian forces are not withdrawing, they are just regrouping. here's what joe biden had to say on that today. >> it's an open question whether he's actually pulling back and going to say i'm just going to focus on donbas and i'm not worried about the rest of the country. i'm a skeptic. it appears so far that he's not told -- pulled all of the troops out from kyiv and moving south, there's no evidence he's done that. >> joining me now is ali velshi.
it's so hard to sort of understand what the narrative is here, because the narratives all appear to be sort of all at the same time. russia is failing in its military objective, be you they're killing and slaughtering a lot of people and destroying lots of territory. they're either pulling back, or they're just stalling in order to go in harder. is it possible from where you are to get a sense of which of these things is true or all of them true? >> reporter: yeah. or is it confusion or deliberate disinformation? it's very, very hard to tell. what you were hearing and showing, what you just described, is the sort of conflicting types of intelligence that we're getting. british intelligence suggesting that some of these conscripts, these russian soldiers are sort of protesting. they're sabotaging themselves. the idea that they were pulling away from kyiv and neighboring areas in order to build trust during those negotiations, we
have evidence that that didn't happen. there was shelling continuing to occur in those places. this idea that they want to focus back on the donbas and the eastern region of the country and that the focus on kyiv and other places was just meant to be a distraction. it becomes impossible to tell what the truth actually is here. as you said, we can't confirm all of those things, but you can see richard engel's actual reporting. we have seen reporting from our colleagues at sky news that shows the actual destruction of resident's apartment buildings and things like that, and it plays out even here in lviv, which seems like a very peaceful place during the day. right now, we're under curfew, so nobody can move around. but even people here who came here for safety have been saying things like there's no safe place in ukraine. so at this point, it becomes very, very unclear as to what is actually going on. the important thing, and it's a message coming from the u.s. government, but it seems to bear out on the ground here, is that
the moral of the ukrainian soldiers with the assistance of the weaponry and training they're getting from the west, is seeming to hold them together. they have warned several times they're running out of stuff. yesterday, that conversation with president zelenskyy and president bush [ sic ] lasted for an hour. but that money is -- they are struggling to run their country and conduct this defense against russia. so it's unclear. i think the only thing we're clear on is one way or the other this is not going the way the russians thought, because we had reports of 72 hours or 96 hours before they take the whole place. not sure it's clear whether vladamir putin understood that not to be true or he's been duped by his own people. but something is not working for the russians. >> yeah, mother russia has been fooled before by the same sort of scenario. it's almost as if they thought
afghanistan, you know, the capital of afghanistan fell quickly, we're going to do that. now they've built themselves another afghanistan, a mess. ali velshi, stay safe. thank you, my friend. appreciate you. joining me now is former u.s. ambassador to ukraine william taylor, vice president of russia and europe for the u.s. institute of peace. and jameel jaffer, executive director at george mason university. thank you both for being here. ambassador, can you make sense of this? because it seems that russia is doubling down, but doubling down on failure. if their troops are stealing food and medicine and supplies that are supposed to be helping refugees, that tells me they're not properly supplied with food and medicine, because they have to steal it. and they're bombing places that are now essentially empty of people and people are running away. it's not a military fight. can you make sense of what it is that russia at this point, what are their goals?
>> joy, that's the right question, what are their goals? president putin, at the outset, thought that he could go right down the river to the capital of ukraine, kyiv, in three days. and here we are, joy, on what, day 36. and he's run into -- his military has run into severe problems, not just with their own -- not just the fuel and food that you thought, but a very motivated ukrainian military. the ukrainian military has stopped that advance, and not only stopped it, joy, they're pushing them back. the ukrainian military is pushing back the russians. so i have a good friend, joy, i just heard word from him for the first time in week. he had been -- he had been a civilian, and then when he went into the regular military, he was deployed to the front. they took his phone away, because he might have been captured. he was vulnerable to be
captured. and the day he got back his phone, because they had done so well, pushed the russians back, his unit has gone down in its alert level, which is a good sign. it corroborates what you're saying. that says that the ukrainians are doing extremely well. >> and jameel jaffer, thank you for being here. we're hearing reports that the russians have given back control of chernobyl, which means they weren't capable of operating that, and the power systems. they couldn't do it. they're giving it back to the control of ukraine. it does appear that their military, if it's full of conscripts, who are complaining on radio transmissions that are getting picked up, or at least the information war that ukraine seems to be winning, which they're depicting russian troops as unmotivated, unskilled and unprepared. what do you make of the situation? >> you know, you're right, joy. it's been an amazing thing that the ukrainians have done in
terms of the information war. they have owned that battle space in a way you couldn't have imagined, particularly given the success the russians had in the 2016 elections and the like, the ukrainians have demonstrated the horrific impact the russians are having on the civilian population, but demonstrating the unlessness of the russian soldiers to do anything, and the scenes we saw in china during the tiananmen scare, we're seeing over and over again. they are dominating the russians in a way nobody expected, even more so on the battlefield. so they have taken it out of the russians and given them a real challenge, back at home and also in the popular media here. >> you know, i guess the question is, ambassador taylor, how do you get putin to walk back? volodymyr zelenskyy has been incredibly successful in his information war. he's very skilled at communication, but he is still
having to berate countries like belgium to say stop doing diamond business with the russians. he's still having to play pa whack-a-mole with people who want to play ball. and putin is demanding you pay for oil in roubls. is there a way to get putin to stand down? he's just losing and making destruction. >> he is losing, and destroying the country. at least the parts that he's after. which interesting, joy, the parts he's really destroying are in the east, are next to russia. these are russian-speaking people. >> right. >> they are united against him, but these are the people he thought would be there to welcome him. so he's counterproductive on that. and you asked the right question, what gets him to sit
down at the negotiating table. when he understands, when he's made to understand and realizes he's losing on the battlefield, that he's not winning, his troops are being pushed back. when he understands he's not going to gain on the battlefield what he was after, he may look for some way to salvage something. and there are a couple of things that the ukrainians have talked about that putin can say i to the the ukrainians not to be in nato. there are some things he could do. but he has to first understand he's not winning on the battlefield. >> and jameel, since the invasion began, 24 u.s. cargo planes have unloaded hundreds of anti-aircraft missiles, these missiles that can take down aircraft. 4600 javelin anti-tank missiles have also gone to ukraine.
you heard the white house. if putin won't stand down, it appears that we now go into the long insurgency phase. an insurgency that's going to be fought in part in cities. we remember that and how that went for us in iraq. if this becomes a long-term insurgency, then how do you end it? >> well, that's the hard part of this, joy. part of the reason vladamir putin is in right now is we didn't effectively deter him from going in. if we had delivered these weapons well ahead of him, we might have kept him out of the country. but we are where we are. putin doesn't see a way out, and i fear he's going to triple down on his attacks on civilian infrastructure, schools, theaters, hospitals, the like. and a long-term insurgency, that is worse for the ukrainian people. afghanistan was very destruction of the people of afghanistan. it's not good to have a war
going on in europe that lasts a long time. now we have to figure out how do we push putin out and get him out as quickly as possible? unfortunately, he still believes the allies can't get in and he may be willing to push even harder. that's the concerning thing for me. >> he's still in syria. look what he's doing there and continuing to do. it is a conundrum. thank you both very much. up next on "the reidout," jared kushner was not at the white house on january 6th, but he does know many of the key players in the effort to overturn the election, including the former president. so what might he have told the january 6th select committee today? lindsey graham has a long list of grievances about democrats, and now he's taking it out on judge ketanji brown jackson. it's team smith versus team rock. seems like everybody is picking a side in the ugly incident at
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today, jared kushner met virtually with the house select committee. chairman bennie thompson told reporters that the committee has no evidence that trump's son-in-law was involved in the plans of january 6th and has not sought to obtain his emails, but is of interest as a role he played as a senior adviser. ivanka did attend and called the rioters patriots. according to the report, they
hosted a fancy dinner for administration officials at their house nearly 24 hours after trump -- since trump's re-election bid, they have bent over backwards to try to rehabilitate their reputation. while the right is having a freakout what a private citizen hunter biden did, jared kushner and ivanka made $640 million while they were working at the white house. according to democratic congressman pete aguilar, a met of the january 6th committee, the payable is working to fill the eight-hour gap in the white house phone logs. chairman thompson confirmed to reporters that the panel is considering issuing a subpoena for trump's personal phone records. the house rules committee will meet monday to decide if they will recommend that the house find two people in contempt of congress for their refusal to
comply with subpoenas. joining me now are my two guests. thank you for being here. congressman, i'm going to start with you. it is here that the committee is at least considering going after donald trump's phone records. i think that 7 1/2 hour gap, not since nixon has there been a greater scandal. do you believe that the committee, and that your fellow democrats and two republicans, will have the gumption to issue that subpoena? >> i hope so. this guy operates like a mob boss. he knows what to say and what not to say. we learned that from michael cohen and many others. he doesn't write emails. he'll never tell you what to do. he'll just kind of wink and nod so that he knows how to work around it. so that seven-hour gap is glaring. either something was deleted or he moved off to use his own
personal cell phone to make calls. so i hope they explore it. >> i'm assuming, glenn, you as a prosecutor, that's something you would need, right? if you're trying to piece together what the former president was doing on january 6th in a 7 1/2 gap, to subpoena those phone records, how difficult is that to do and would they need to involve the justice department? >> yeah, you know, you do need it. you want a complete record, joy. but frankly, the absence of that seven or eight hours of phone calls is as important, and perhaps even more incriminating than the phone calls themselves. now, that remains to be seen, because we have to, first, subpoena the call detail records. we have to figure out what phones president trump was using. frankly, i think when you look at the testimony of somebody like jared kushner or his daughter, ivanka, you know, they might have some information about whether their father actually knew what the term
meant. so i think there's a lot to be unraveled here. but frankly, we have all heard if the crime don't get you, the coverup will. i think this seven or eight-hour gap is going to do so much more harm to donald trump and his associates than if they had just produced the calls in first place. >> can i just -- >> please. >> time is not on our side, because as glenn knows, these cell phone record companies don't keep the cell phones and records forever. many of them, it's nine, 12, maybe 18 months. so we have to move now, because they could be destroyed just in the ordinary course of business. >> and we also know that president trump flushed paper records down the toilet. we know that he was not one that keeps records. we also know he did know what a burner phone was per john bolton. there was a previous lawsuit that he used the term "burner phone." he does know what a burner phone is. you mentioned jared kushner.
what might he be able to produce, give than he was not there on january 6th physically? what might they want to pull from him? >> well, he undoubtedly had conversations with his father-in-law and the good news is, there is no father-in-law, son-in-law privilege, just like there is no daddy/daughter privilege. so when and if ivanka is compelled to testify, there will be no applicable privileges, other than the fifth amendment right against self-incrimination, in the event ivanka or jared's testimony would incriminate them, make it seem like they committed a crime. but he up doubtedly had conversations with his father-in-law before, during, and after the riots, even if he wasn't present on january 6th. and sometimes we play the telephone game when we're prosecuting and investigating crimes. i want to know what ivanka told jared about her interactions with her father, because all of
that tends to build a record, and we can get the overall picture before we go to the ultimate target and confront them with all of the evidence that we have obtained. >> yeah. congressman, you know, this news that was in "the washington post," the justice department actually is expanding its probe a little bit to get closer and closer to the central players. you know, i know some of your fellow democrats have been very critical who said, do your jobs, doj. do you feel better about what you're hearing? >> i do. these investigations take time. white collar investigations are three to four years on average. but the committee is moving up the chain. jared kushner is the highest ranking official so far. and they are expanding the number of prosecutors on the criminal side and asking grand jury witnesses about people higher up, that they are expanding what they're looking at. look, most of this was committed in plain sight.
but it looks like they want to have some other evidence to supplement what the president has said. >> two more quick questions for you. there was this blockbuster ruling by a federal judge about this florida restricted voting law which he talked about our democracy being under siege and the right to vote being under siege. are democrats concerned that if something like this gets appealed, it winds up in the supreme court where those six justices can just now rule because this is involving section two of the voting rights act, that it winds up killing the voting rights act all together? >> that's right. i would feel much more comfortable if it wasn't a 50/50 senate where manchin and sinema would vote to put back in place the voting rights act. the dash board is flashing all over the country. these judges can't do much if the supreme court is just going to overturn it.
>> i don't know if people realize you guys are a buddy act. there is a law only the books, because of you, glenn. do you want to describe this law and tell us what glenn had to do with it? >> i'll give all credit to law. there's a federal prosecutor who worked on homicide cases in the district, in d.c. he told me about the angst that so many families have because of the number of cold cases, 3,000 in d.c. so he pitched to me having a homicide victims bill of rights that would allow a family after three years to have their cold case reopened. it passed with over400 democratic and republican votes in the house, it's headed to the senate and we hope families will get some closure pretty soon. >> have you heard from any senators and does this have a chance of becoming a law, glenn, as you inspired it? >> yeah. well, listen, i give all of the thanks to representative swalwell for hearing me out on this. i have all kinds of schemes and ideas. but he was willing to take it up
because of his commitment to addressing violent crime and, joy, we have more than 250,000 open, unsolved homicide cases in our nation. and that is horrific. these families sit by a phone, hoping a call will come from a detective saying we have a break in your love one's case, and most of them are a product of gun violence. representative swalwell took the ball and ran with it. and now there is some hope to come to these families. so i couldn't be more thrilled this is going to become the law of the land. >> i never get to -- almost never get to do good news on this show. the audience can decide who plays the two of you in the buddy picture. thank you both very much. appreciate you both. still ahead, more republican senators say they will oppose ketanji brown jackson's nomination to the supreme court, despite the fact that she is
large out-of-state corporations have set vo their sightsent on california. they've written a ballot proposal to allow online sports betting. they tell us it will fund programs for the homeless, but read the fine print. 90% of the profits go to out-of-state corporations, leaving almost nothing for the homeless. no real jobs are created here. but the promise between our state and our sovereign tribes would be broken forever. these out-of-state corporations don't care about california. but we do. stand with us. her record is overwhelming in its lack of a steady judicial philosophy, and a tendency to
achieve outcomes in spite of what the law requires are common sense would dictate. after a thorough review of judge jackson's record, and information gained at the hearing from an evasive witness, i now know what judge jackson was the favorite of the radical left and i will vote no. >> if you watched the supreme court nomination hearings for judge ketanji brown jackson, you're probably not surprised that senator graham, two snarled and barked through the entire four-day proceeding, announced today that he will, oh, surprise, not vote to confirm her. graham spoke for over 20 minutes today, rattling off his grievances, including the way democrats treated republican nom niece, which is irrelevant. but nine months ago, graham and two other republican senators voted to confirm judge jackson for the position she holds now. at the time, cnn reported that
graham told reporters -- >> so what changed in nine months, lindsey? of course, when it comes to consistency and supreme court nominations, lindsey graham magnificently failed. you remember what he said in 2016 when republicans refused to meet with let alone hold confirmation hearings for merrick garland, who judge jackson replaced on the federal bench. >> i want you to use my words against me. if there is a republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say lindsey graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination, and you could use my words against me and you would be right. >> but then, like magic, good old lindsey was front and center in the effort to jam through amy coney barrett, just 38 days before the 2020 election.
>> joining me now is former senator claire mccaskill. oh, claire, my friend. >> oh, joy. >> you had to deal with this guy. he is such a rank hypocrite. he just voted for this woman nine months ago, to sit on the d.c. circuit. she replaced merrick garland. he just voted for her. thisst this just a matter of him formatively wanting to beat up on a black woman because that makes him more popular in south carolina? what do you think is going on inside his head here? >> lindsey graham suffers from a
very serious disease, and it's called i want to be the center of attention and i want everybody to like me that is in the political base of the current leader of the republican party, aka, the guy at mar-a-lago. you said it, joy, merrick garland is all we have to talk about. if you want to talk about the road to making supreme court nominees 100% political. that was mitch mcconnell with the assistance of the republican caucus that did that. lindsey got a lot of restorative use from what he did around the cavanaugh hearings. donald trump wanted to golf with him every weekend after those hearings. so that made him a superstar on the right. the last thing i want to say about this, you understand that
this justice, while sitting on the court, had two cases in front of her that were highly politically charged. if she was what lindsey graham says, she would have ruled against the people trying to get hillary clinton's emails, and she would have ruled with the people trying to stop the wall. instead, she did just the opposite. she said you're entitled to the emails, and she said there's nothing in this lawsuit that stops the wall. so this is not a political judge. and graham knows it. >> and the thing that's so infuriating about it, it feels like just because he's mad and in his feelings about, you know, cavanaugh, it's not anything else's fault but his. but he wants to put an asterisks on this justice that she barely got through. do you anticipate nibble but
susan colins? -- anybody but susan colins? there's a dozen republicans that voted for her before. will she get more than one or two republican votes? >> lisa murkowski is not -- she is going to need some votes from the democratic party in alaska. it will not surprise me if she voted for this woman a year ago. it's not surprise me if we get both lisa and susan. >> lastly -- are we out of time? i might have a minute. game out the situation the democrats are facing. there is a whole debate over who they should be trying to appeal to. because these numbers don't look good for them on enthusiasm among democrats. but the reason people are unenthusiastic. they don't want to lose the right to abortion.
where would you fall in terms of where democrats should be focusing for the midterms? >> everybody should put a all hands on deck to do something about inflation. the other thing we should keep talking about, if they want to keep you from voting, doesn't it make you want to vote? i mean, that is a powerful psychological tool. everybody knows what republicans are doing. they want to marginalize people. they want people who haven't lived in the same mace for a long time, they want students, black and brown people, they want to keep them from voting. we've got to make sure that we keep that front and center. if somebody tells you that you can't vote, guess what it makes you want to do? go vote. >> do you get the sense -- because i talked to people the best thing going for the democrats right now are the looney tunes that republicans are deciding to nominate. this poor gentleman in georgia, every time he opens his mouth, you cringe. he was a great football player, but they're nominating so many
cringe-worthy people because they're trying to appeal to the one retired guy in florida, people he would like, do you think that republicans are maybe undercutting what could in theory be advantages for them, at least on the senate side? >> yeah, i think so. and, you know, you look at missouri, i mean, leading all the polls is a normformer gover who taped up his mistress to gym equipment and threatened to take pictures of her, and he's leading the polls. if they nominate all these really flawed candidates, i think we're in business. >> and it's funny that they're doing it at the behest of donald trump, because they can't say no to him. and they're shooting themselves in the foot and making their party just look qanon crazy. claire mccaskill, thank you very much. up next, still more questions than answers about what is happening in the wake of a slap heard around the world. we'll bring you the latest developments.
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four days after the slap that rocked hollywood, we are getting a first hand account from the producer in charge of sunday's academy awarding broadcast. in an interview today, the producer said after will smith clapped chris rock, the lapd spoke with him and chris rock in his office. >> they were saying, you know, this is battery was the word they used in that moment. they said we will go get him. we are prepared to get him right now. you can press charges. we can arrest him. they were laying out the options. the officers finished laying out what his options were, and they said, you know, would you like us to take any action. and he said no. he said no. >> packer told abc he did not speak with will smith at all that night, adding another layer to the drama behind the fallout
from the slap. in a statement wednesday, the academy claimed that smith was asked to leave the ceremony and refused. but today, several reports disputed that account. sources saying that smith was never formally asked to leave, and that packer played a role in keeping smith at the ceremony. for his part, chris rock made his first public appearance last night in boston, in front of a soldout crowd. but he didn't say much. he still is processing the slap, he said. the incident also highlights another ugly moment at the oscars that did not get the same scrutiny. in 1973, an activist represented marlon brando, who won best actor for "the god father" but declined to represent the award and here is what happened when little feather took the stage. >> the reason for this being is the treatment of american indians today by the film industry -- excuse me --
[ applause ] >> in 2016, little feather told canada's globe and mail, during her presentation, john wayne was waiting backstage to take me off. he had to be restrained by six security men. joining me now, chris witherspoon. chris, you know, i wanted to play that 1973 clip, because it points out two things. first of all, there have been, you know, dramatic moments during acceptance speeches before, but there's security in there. there was six security guards available to hold john wayne back in 1973. but in the case of will smith, everybody just watched him walk to the stage. so it's hard for me to listen to the academy blame everyone but themselves. your thoughts? >> joy, thank you for bringing those legendary receipts from back in the day. it does feel like i'm watching
an episode of "blues clues." i'm looking for a clue. so much misinformation out there. the academy, they're saying what they said about will smith being asked to leave the ceremony. but now we're hearing from deadline and variety that will smith was not asked to leave, that a representative from him was possibly talk to about him leaving. well wanted to stay and make this right. if he were to win and go to the stage and apologize. >> that is the other piece to. when people have been repeating this all day, including on some news networks, they just keep repeating that they asked him to leave and he refused. when there is so much reporting disputing that, and they are not adding the piece as you said, the reason he wanted to stay was to apologize and make it right. talk about this other thing too. wanda sykes is the other evidence that the economy said was not true. she buried the academy for letting him stay. she did an interview and set
chris rock apologize to her for what happened. he said they didn't have him leave. she seemed to be putting on the academy as well. >> based on what wanda sykes is saying and others, we need to hear a full blown press conference, like may in major crimes, where we hear from the president, david reuben, and time for us to ask questions. we can piece together a timeline the see what happened. the slap happened, and 30 minutes, a few commercial breaks, we need to find out more facts. this could end this man's career. will smith's head is on the chopping block. he really is this so many people, a national treasure. he is our greatest export of this country, just like our stars. >> the five people that have been expelled from the academy, four of the five were of involved in some sort of sexual
deviancy, harvey weinstein, remit plants key, bill cosby, is in photographer named adam kimmel, car mine. talk to me about this other thing that as happen. there has been a war going on not just on black twitter, people on team will or team chris, but a lot of attacks on jada pinkett smith as well. >> i think for so many people, jeita on the red table talk coming out to talk about their marriage, jeita in many ways has been the person to get will hyped up and riled up and put into our positions. in a day, they are a dynamic power couple. i'm curious to see with a talk on the red table talk. it is important to get it out asap. i think will smith should be able to keep his oscar. you mention all the folks that have been expelled from the academy, no one yet in the history of the oscar has had
their were taken back. he has shattered so many glass ceilings. before he was 30 years old, he made 1.5 billion dollars in ticket sales and movies. no one done that before. will smith without an oscar is still a huge box office draw. i hope we get to the bottom of this, and he gets to have his story told, whatever actually happened get out there. >> lastly, chris rock is actually winning here too. whenever his next big netflix special is going to sell millions and millions of dollars. he is benefiting in some ways? >> his concert all is happening right now. think it's worse again issued for $49, rumor has it that they are between $808,000 for folks trying to seize concert. if he is smart, he probably has a camera crew that is filming what he's doing right now to be made as part of a special that can be package to netflix, hulu
or whoever the highs bitter is. >> you cannot buy that kind of publicity. you know who you ought to be right now? chris rock's agent. chris witherspoon, my favorite chris, thank you very much, i appreciate you. tomorrow, it will be a big day. i will tell you all about it next. about it next not all plastic is the same. we're carefully designing our bottles to be 100% recyclable, including the caps. they're collected and separated from other plastics, so they can be turned back into material that we use to make new bottles. that completes the circle and reduces plastic waste. please help us get every bottle back.
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